House Votes To Hold Barr & Commerce Chief Ross In Criminal Contempt Over Census | Hardball | MSNBC


>>>WELCOME BACK TO “HARDBALL.”>>>WELCOME BACK TO “HARDBALL.” IN A DRAMATIC MOVE LATE TODAY, IN A DRAMATIC MOVE LATE TODAY, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES VOTED TO HOLD ATTORNEY GENERAL VOTED TO HOLD ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR AND THE COMMERCE WILLIAM BARR AND THE COMMERCE SECRETARY WILBUR ROSS IN SECRETARY WILBUR ROSS IN CRIMINAL CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS CRIMINAL CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS FOR WITHHOLDING SUBPOENAED FOR WITHHOLDING SUBPOENAED DOCUMENTS FROM THE OVERSIGHT DOCUMENTS FROM THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE. AS NBC NEWS POINTS OUT, THE VOTE AS NBC NEWS POINTS OUT, THE VOTE MARKS CLOSE TO THE SECOND TIME MARKS CLOSE TO THE SECOND TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT AN IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT AN AMERICAN ATTORNEY GENERAL HAD AMERICAN ATTORNEY GENERAL HAD BEEN FOUND IN CRIMINAL CONTEMPT, BEEN FOUND IN CRIMINAL CONTEMPT, THE FIRST BEING ERIC HOLDER THE FIRST BEING ERIC HOLDER SEVEN YEARS AGO. SEVEN YEARS AGO. THE SUBPOENA DOCUMENTS THAT BARR THE SUBPOENA DOCUMENTS THAT BARR AND ROSS WITHHELD ABOUT THE AND ROSS WITHHELD ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION’S FAILED EFFORT ADMINISTRATION’S FAILED EFFORT TO ADD A CITIZENSHIP QUESTION TO TO ADD A CITIZENSHIP QUESTION TO THE CENSUS, AND THEY COULD THE CENSUS, AND THEY COULD REVEAL THE PRESIDENT’S ULTERIOR REVEAL THE PRESIDENT’S ULTERIOR MOTIVE PERHAPS IN PAGING THAT MOTIVE PERHAPS IN PAGING THAT CENSUS FIGHT. CENSUS FIGHT. ACCORDING TO “THE NEW YORK ACCORDING TO “THE NEW YORK TIMES,” THE DEMOCRATS BELIEVE, TIMES,” THE DEMOCRATS BELIEVE, QUOTE, THE DEMOCRATS’ LONG QUOTE, THE DEMOCRATS’ LONG STATED RATIONALE FOR COLLECTING STATED RATIONALE FOR COLLECTING THE DATA, TO BETTER ENFORCE THE THE DATA, TO BETTER ENFORCE THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT WAS MERELY A VOTING RIGHTS ACT WAS MERELY A COVER FOR A POLITICALLY COVER FOR A POLITICALLY MOTIVATED ATTEMPT TO ELIMINATE MOTIVATED ATTEMPT TO ELIMINATE NONCITIZENS FROM STATISTICS. NONCITIZENS FROM STATISTICS. THE QUESTION WAS NECESSARY THE QUESTION WAS NECESSARY RULING THAT THEIR JUSTIFICATION RULING THAT THEIR JUSTIFICATION SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN CONTRIVED. SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN CONTRIVED. I’M JOINED RIGHT NOW BY I’M JOINED RIGHT NOW BY CONGRESSWOMAN DEBBIE WASSERMAN CONGRESSWOMAN DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ OF FLORIDA WHO SERVES ON SCHULTZ OF FLORIDA WHO SERVES ON THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. CONGRESSWOMAN, IT’S GREAT TO CONGRESSWOMAN, IT’S GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON. HAVE YOU ON.>>THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. . . CAN YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CAN YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TRUMP PEOPLE WERE UP TO, AND TRUMP PEOPLE WERE UP TO, AND INCLUDING THAT CITIZENSHIP INCLUDING THAT CITIZENSHIP QUESTION? QUESTION? WHAT WAS THEIR POLITICAL DREAM WHAT WAS THEIR POLITICAL DREAM HERE? HERE?>>WELL, IT CERTAINLY WASN’T>>WELL, IT CERTAINLY WASN’T WHAT SECRETARY ROSS TESTIFIED WHAT SECRETARY ROSS TESTIFIED UNDER OATH WHICH WAS THAT THE UNDER OATH WHICH WAS THAT THE SOLE REASON HE SAID THAT THEY SOLE REASON HE SAID THAT THEY WANTED THE CITIZENSHIP QUESTION WANTED THE CITIZENSHIP QUESTION ON THE CENSUS WAS TO ENFORCE THE ON THE CENSUS WAS TO ENFORCE THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. VOTING RIGHTS ACT. AND PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF AND PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF BASICALLY OUTED SECRETARY ROSS BASICALLY OUTED SECRETARY ROSS AS A LIAR LAST WEEK WHEN HE SAID AS A LIAR LAST WEEK WHEN HE SAID PUBLICLY THAT THE PURPOSE WAS PUBLICLY THAT THE PURPOSE WAS FOR PARTISAN GERRYMANDERING. FOR PARTISAN GERRYMANDERING. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD TWO CABINET AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD TWO CABINET OFFICIALS DEFY BIPARTISAN OFFICIALS DEFY BIPARTISAN CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENAS. CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENAS. AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW. ABOVE THE LAW. AND SO WE HAVE TO USE EVERY TOOL AND SO WE HAVE TO USE EVERY TOOL AT OUR DISPOSAL TO BE ABLE TO AT OUR DISPOSAL TO BE ABLE TO USE THE OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY WE USE THE OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY WE HAVE TO GET ANSWERS TO THE HAVE TO GET ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE IF THIS WAS QUESTIONS, BECAUSE IF THIS WAS REALLY ABOUT PARTISAN REALLY ABOUT PARTISAN GERRYMANDERING, IF THE DOCUMENTS GERRYMANDERING, IF THE DOCUMENTS HAD BEEN REVEALED WHICH WE KNOW HAD BEEN REVEALED WHICH WE KNOW HAVE SAID WHAT THE HAVE SAID WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION WAS REALLY TRYING ADMINISTRATION WAS REALLY TRYING TO DO WAS TO SUPPRESS HISPANIC TO DO WAS TO SUPPRESS HISPANIC REPRESENTATION AND MAKE SURE REPRESENTATION AND MAKE SURE THAT BROWN PEOPLE WEREN’T THAT BROWN PEOPLE WEREN’T REPRESENTED THE WAY THEY SHOULD REPRESENTED THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE JUST ON THEIR NUMBERS, THEN BE JUST ON THEIR NUMBERS, THEN WE HAD TO DO THIS. WE HAD TO DO THIS.>>SO THE PURPOSE WAS TO SCARE>>SO THE PURPOSE WAS TO SCARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE FAMILY OR THE HOUSEHOLD WHO THE FAMILY OR THE HOUSEHOLD WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED NOT TO ARE UNDOCUMENTED NOT TO PARTICIPATE, AND THEREBY REDUCE PARTICIPATE, AND THEREBY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING COUNTED IN THAT AREA. COUNTED IN THAT AREA.>>RIGHT THERE.>>RIGHT THERE. IS A REASON, CHRIS, THAT IT’S IS A REASON, CHRIS, THAT IT’S BEEN 70 YEARS SINCE A BEEN 70 YEARS SINCE A CITIZENSHIP QUESTION HAS BEEN ON CITIZENSHIP QUESTION HAS BEEN ON A CENSUS. A CENSUS. AND I WAS AT THE HEARING WHEN WE AND I WAS AT THE HEARING WHEN WE HAD SECRETARY ROSS THERE. HAD SECRETARY ROSS THERE. AND VERY CLEARLY WE POINTED OUT AND VERY CLEARLY WE POINTED OUT THAT YOU DON’T NEED A THAT YOU DON’T NEED A CITIZENSHIP QUESTION TO ENFORCE CITIZENSHIP QUESTION TO ENFORCE THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. YOU DON’T NEED — WE HAVE YOU DON’T NEED — WE HAVE SMALLER SURVEYS THAT THEY DO SMALLER SURVEYS THAT THEY DO WHERE WE INCLUDE IT NOW. WHERE WE INCLUDE IT NOW. BUT THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF SAID BUT THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF SAID LAST WEEK THAT IT WAS PARTISAN LAST WEEK THAT IT WAS PARTISAN GERRYMANDERING THAT WAS HER OWN GERRYMANDERING THAT WAS HER OWN MOTIVE. MOTIVE. HE OUTED HIS OWN CABINET HE OUTED HIS OWN CABINET SECRETARY. SECRETARY. WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO GET WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO GET DOCUMENTS. DOCUMENTS. THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE’S ROLE THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE’S ROLE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE MOTIVATIONS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE MOTIVATIONS OF THE ADMINISTRATION. OF THE ADMINISTRATION. THAT’S WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS THAT’S WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS SET UP THREE BRANCHES OF SET UP THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT. IT’S OUR JOB IN CONGRESS TO GET IT’S OUR JOB IN CONGRESS TO GET ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS. ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS. IT’S THE ADMINISTRATION’S JOB TO IT’S THE ADMINISTRATION’S JOB TO ACT ON IT. ACT ON IT.>>THE PRESIDENT IS TELLING>>THE PRESIDENT IS TELLING WILBUR ROSS DON’T PARTICIPATE. WILBUR ROSS DON’T PARTICIPATE. DON’T ANSWER THEIR SUBPOENA. DON’T ANSWER THEIR SUBPOENA. IGNORE THEM, BASICALLY. IGNORE THEM, BASICALLY. THAT’S AN AMAZING STATEMENT. THAT’S AN AMAZING STATEMENT.>>THIS CONTEMPT VOTE ALLOWS US>>THIS CONTEMPT VOTE ALLOWS US TO — IT’S A CRIMINAL CONTEMPT TO — IT’S A CRIMINAL CONTEMPT RESOLUTION.

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