How Much Can Option Traders Make?


(mellow edgy music) – [Jeff] I love that you’ve built a system that delivers exactly what
to do on Sunday night. It totally takes the guess work out of what people need
to be doing in the market. – [Dave] I love to help people learn. I love to educate people,
love to teach, right? So, I really do wanna teach
people to take a system and make it theirs. And that’s why that’s so important, because anybody can learn
and anybody can put it into affect for themselves and
use it to better their lives and gain financial independence. That’s my goal with
teaching people to do this. – Hey, everyone, I’m Jeff Bishop,
founder of ragingbull.com. I’m here today with Dave
Lukas, who’s slowly taking all my chips. (laughing) We’re here today to talk
about his new service, called Options Profit Planner. It’s gonna revolutionize
your training strategy. He’s developed a system
that wins, get this, over 90% of the time, he’s
winning with this system and he’s gonna show you
how you can flip the tables on your trading. Where you can become the dealer
instead of being the player who keeps losing their money,
you could be the dealer, taking the money all the time. So, Dave, thanks for coming today. – It’s great to be here and it is great to have all the chips on my side. (laughing) – I don’t think I’m getting them back. (laughing) So, tell me, how did you
get started in trading? What’s your story like? – You know it’s an interesting story, I started out, I’m an entrepreneur. I own a number of businesses. And I didn’t set out to
start trading or anything, I actually started my early
investing career in real estate, believe it or not. And over the years, did
well in real estate, still do real estate some
today, but there came a point about almost 10 years ago
where I was highly invested in my businesses and my wife
and I had decided to adopt, we’re gonna adopt our daughter from China. And at the time, like I said
it was highly leveraged, I had maybe 40, 50 grand on my name and anybody’s who’s ever adopted, internationally before knows, there’s a lot of cost to it. Back then it was 40 to 50 grand. And I was, it was the
last money that I had and I didn’t wanna basically
get rid of our emergency fund, but I didn’t wanna have
to also borrow money to do it either. And essentially finance my daughter. So, I had to find a way. So, I started looking
at the markets as a way to have more liquid and faster
returns versus real estate. I love real estate, I love cashflow and one of the things
we’ll talk about today is how much I love cashflow and
how we can do that same stuff on the market, but I looked at the markets and I looked how I can take
some of the things I’ve learned in real estate and then
use that in the markets to help me create a strategy
that would really work for me night and day and while I
sleep and be able to produce that income to help that goal. So, that’s how it all started. – How’d you get drawn to
Option more than stocks. – The leverage of them. That was the first thing. But it’s really a realization that I had, and it’s funny, we’re sitting
here at a “Poker” table, “Blackjack” table, is that,
one of the big realizations that I had when I started
looking at the markets, it was like the epiphany, right? I mean, if you buy a stock,
how do you make money? – Well, if it goes up. – Right, it’s not a trick
question, has to go up, right? Well, the reality of a stock
is it can go really three ways. It can go up, it can go down
or it can stay the same, right? So, if you buy a stock,
what are your chances of making money? 33% and so if you think about
it and think about it that way you have a 33% chance of making money. To put that in perspective, black jack, odds in the casino is 46.36%. – So it’s even worse if you’re in my seat. – Even worse if you’re in your seat. But you’re better off taking your money to the casino, right? And once I had that
epiphany and realized that, I said to myself, well
shoot, if buying a stock, makes me money only 33% of the time, who’s making the money 67% of the time, ’cause that’s who I wanna be. And so that’s what
kinda set me on the path to start looking at how
you can do that, right? And that led me to options. Because the only way that
you can be on the other side of the table is you gotta
be selling the stock, right? So, how do you do that? Either you’re in a credit
investor, you got in IPOs, that sort of thing or you’re
taking a company public on the exchange, right, you’re the seller. Well, for most people, they’re
just not able to do that. I wasn’t able to do that back then. And so I started looking
at how I can be a seller in the market and I came
across some specific trades that you can do, actually
some of the simplest ones that people don’t even
really think about nowadays. That you can do in the market
to make yourself a seller. And so, that’s how I did it
and I put the odds in my favor. – So, how do you get your odds
up to 90% on these trades. How are you finding these
kinda trades in the market? – Yeah, so, along with that
and this took a couple of years to get right and along with that, so, getting into the trade is
never the hard part, right? Keeping your profits in
getting out of the trade, that’s the hard part. That’s the challenge for people. – That’s always the trick,
getting out with a profit. – Right anybody can get into a trade, it’s getting out with a
profit that’s the key. And so, as I started to
learn these strategies around the different things that we did, I started to look for
ways to put those odds further in my favor,
so, the support levels and the resistance levels
that you wanna look to sell at, I’ve developed a key way of looking at the markets from a bollinger brand perspective and what we call an energy perspective that we go through and look at. Ability of a stock to trend or not to take advantage of that market movement, that energy that it has. And then furthermore we
created a specific strategy on how to find the best candidates, the most best fundamental
and technical candidates to trade in the markets. And so when you put that all together with a good, clear set of rules, you created an amazing system that works very consistently. Now, we’re not doing 150% returns, although we once in a
while will get those, but it’s more like water
dripping on a rock, it’s that consistent profits over time, that just happens and
then your account grows and it’s almost like, they say the eighth wonder of the world is compound interest, well this is compound trading, right? I wanted a strategy that worked for me while I slept and I didn’t
have to sit there worried or be in front of a computer screen or sitting there looking at
a chart all day long, right, I just didn’t have time
to, I’m building businesses and everything else in my life, right, so I needed something that
worked and systematically defended itself as well too. – About how long do you
spend in the market each week or what does it take? – Spend really less than 10 minutes. Setting up the trades on Sunday evenings. – 10 minutes a week? – Yeah.
– Wow, yeah. – So we spend about 10
minutes studying the trades up on Sunday evenings
and, but I mean it’s good to cancel orders and if
they fill, they fill, right? I’m not one to chase, right? There’s always
opportunities in the market, I always look at it like
you’re a sniper in a tree. You’re just looking for that perfect shot, well, so when I find a
setup and they’re there, every single week, multiple
ones to choose from. So I put in those setups,
I put in those orders, as good to cancel, and I just let ’em go. And maybe they fill first
thing on open Monday, maybe they fill on
Tuesday, whenever and then, once in a while during
the week, I’ll check in from my app, ’cause I’m on the go and doing all these things, I got a family and all this stuff, so I
don’t check in that much. I don’t even know what
the market’s doing today, what is–
– I’m looking at my phone, checking the
market, hour by hour at least. So, you’re saying you don’t
even look at the market during the week.
– A lotta days, I don’t. Some days I’m on a plane all day. – Wow.
– Yeah. – I wanna come back to what
you talked about earlier, is indicator, I think you call
it Fractal Energy Trading. Can you explain to me what that is or how you came up with it? – Sure yeah, it’s an
indicator that I developed with some professional traders years ago that basically tells us
when the market’s ready to trend or when it’s not ready to trend, and then we can use that
to basically set up trades based on the movement in the market and take advantage of that, right? Same with stock, same with ETFs, you can use it for any of them, but it’s been a really great tool to use and be able to set up our
trades, put the odds better in our favor, when a
market is really exhausted. And we know it’s gonna walk
sideways or go down a little bit we can really take advantage
of that, same when it goes up, and so having that in our corner
really makes a difference, ’cause we really can win no
matter what the market does, up, down, sideways, whatever it does. – I love that, being able to win no matter which direction the market goes, you’ve got an options strategy for it and the indicator telling you
it’s getting ready to move. – Right, I never wanted to have to compete with the big boys, I never
wanted to have to compete with the Goldman Sachs or
any of that type of stuff, you know what I, yeah,
they run fiber optic mines for millions of dollars to their offices, so their trades execute
one hay second faster. What I wanna do is win in the margins, play where they’re not. And so that’s really, this
indicator helps us to do that. – So something you said earlier was that you took your real estate knowledge and used that and you applied
it to the stock market, so how does that affect your trading, or how do you use that? – Well, actually, there’s
some really key roles that investing in real
estate really helped and translate to the markets really well. If you think about it, really, a stock or index or whatever, ETF,
is really just a piece of market real estate, right? I mean it’s really not
that much different. And so when you look at it that way, there are three rules from real estate that I took into the markets that have really served me well. And the first one is you wanna
buy a dollar for 50 cents, you wanna buy a great property, a great well managed
property below market price. It’s the same thing in the stock market. Wouldn’t it be nice if there’s a stock that you really like that’s sitting at 30 and you could buy it for 20 right now? – I would love to do that. – Would love to do that, right. So, that’s the first thing, right, the second thing is you
invest for cashflow. See, I like getting paid. I don’t like waiting to get paid, I like getting paid. – I like getting paid too. – So I like getting paid right now. So, having that cashflow
is really important to me. So a strategy that can pay
me for taking on any risks. That was really important. And then the third thing
is that you have to be okay withholding for the long term. In real estate you reap
benefits over the long term. And in the market you can too. And that’s where you can get
really good cashflow from and so, a lotta times we’re out in just a little bit a shorter time, but you have to be okay with longterm too. – I think too many traders
are so short term focused, they don’t wanna hold for
a few weeks or months. And they leave a lotta
opportune at tables, so you found a way to capture that by taking advantage of that. – Exactly. And it’s really going against what our society’s teaching us nowadays. We live in this instant society. I mean we stop the micro
with three seconds left, we can’t even wait three seconds anymore. And because of that we miss
out on these opportunities that are a little bit longer term, but pay really, really well. And then nobody’s focused on. I mean, again, it goes back
to winning in the margins. – If I get it right it
sounds like you found a way to identify maybe the
worst trades in the market, if you will, maybe it’s
like a sucker bet out there. But you found a way that you
can sell that to somebody instead of taking the bet, is that kinda? – Sort of, it’s not even the
worst trades in the market, it’s just putting the odds in your favor and be on the other side of the trade. So we talked about, just by
the type of trade you do, you can put yourself at 67% odds already. Now, couple that with a
system that puts together some very specific rules of
how you enter when you enter and those sort of things, that allows you to get to 80, 90%, the defense
you put on things like that, make a huge difference that
allows you to consistently win, but the thing is, is that,
you’re on the other side of the trade, you’re on the
winning side of the trade to start with, most people never are. And that’s about putting
your odds in your favor from the start and that’s
the most important thing. – Well, look, I’ve been
in a lot of casinos. For the one thing I’ve noticed, the casino always puts the
worst odds of the machines out front so when you walk in
you’re gonna play that. Usually it’s this wheel
of fortune machine. You spin it, you put a dollar or two down, you spin the wheel and something happens. Nine times out of 10, they
take your dollar and you lose. But people love, they’re lined
up, ready to play this game. – [Dave] That’s the sucker’s bet. – I’ve always wished I
could have that wheel. I wanna have that wheel at
my house, people come play, so, it sounds to me like
you found a way with trading to find these sucker bets and
then put them in your favor where you’re the house. – Essentially, yes. But they’re not all sucker bets right, it’s just being on the
right side of the trade. And so, the thing we talked
about in the beginning, just by picking the type of trade you do, can put the odds in your favor. To the two to 67%, now
couple that with good entry and exit rules and the defense and stuff and all of a sudden you have a system that, even a system to
find the right candidates and all of a sudden you’ve got a system that wins 80, 90% of the time. And you’re on the other side of it. You’re on the house side. And that’s where you
wanna be anyways, right? You wanna be that one that
has those odds in your favor, all the time, why wouldn’t you be? – So, Dave I’ve been trading
options a long time now. I’ve seen all kinds of strategies, if you’re gonna win 90% of
the time, like you’re saying, this must be a really
complicated strategy. Is this something that
people can really put to use? – Oh, Einstein, I think,
said keep things simple, but not simpler. And one of the things that
anybody who’s ever worked with me has found, that I try to keep
things as simple as possible, how else could I do it
in 10 minutes or so? And that was the whole
point of the strategy from the start, I think, I think people in general
make things more complicated than they have to be. Traders especially make
things more complicated than they have to be. They think they have to
have all these indicators and these different chart patterns and double diagonal albatross whatevers and all this stuff– – Everybody thinks adding another monitor to your screen is gonna
help you be a better trader. – And honestly what I found
is the simpler you make it, the more you win. So I only use a few key indicators, and creating the energies
that we talked about, a few specific types of trades and then some specific
entry and exit rules. Really, at the end of the
day, that’s all it is. And so, that’s what
makes it simple and easy and easy to implement, easy to do and to do from your phone
in less than 10 minutes. – Well, something I’ve heard
you say a few times is, 10 minutes a week, so what does someone do with 10 minutes a week with your system and how can you possibly
use that little bit of time to make these kind of profits? – Very simple. One to two minutes to find
the right candidates to trade. Another two minutes to check the charts and the confirming metrics that we do, another two minutes to set up the trades and pick the option strikes
that we’re gonna be working with and then the last couple of minutes, just to put the trade,
put it on, good to cancel and let it ride. – That’s great. And how long do you typically
hold a position for? Are we talking days or weeks or? – So the average time
we’re in a position is about 2.9 months. Sometimes a lot shorter,
but the average time overall, for all the positions, but you’ll be different
ones, about 2.9 months. – That’s a really great
strategy for people who don’t wanna sit in front
of the computer all day. They can’t watch their phone
or the computer all day, tick by tick, three months is a long holding time on average. – Now we’re getting at
least a 6% return on a risk on all of that, usually a lot more. So we’re turning our money
over 4.1 times a year over 20% returns for less
than 10 minutes a week. – Well, sounds pretty
incredible, honestly. How many trades per week
or month are you looking at typically, how many can
people actually execute with the system? – Yeah, we’re typically
adding 10 to 12 new trades a month, sometimes more. Depending on when the energies give us some really good fills we’ll load up and that sort of thing,
but for the most part, 10 to 12 new trades a
month and we’re closing out about the same every month,
so we’re rolling that income all the time, we’re always
putting that money to work. And so that’s about standard for us. – So you call it the
Options Profit Planner. I’m guessing you call it planner, because you’re actually planning
when you’re gonna be able to take these profits out. Now that you’re such
a long term out there. – Oh, that’s absolutely right. And it’s discipline. So, for me one of the things
that I’ve really learned over the years in building businesses and even doing a lot of the
athletic things that I do and stuff like that is,
it’s discipline, consistency and persistence and that’s what it takes to be successful and so, the
whole point of the strategy is to be disciplined, be consistent and then persist through if you have to. I mean, none of your trade,
one out 10’s gonna go wrong, what do you do? So having a strategy and a plan for that, persisting through it, making that work, and the nice thing is
we got a really great defensive strategy that we’ve
developed over the years that if a trade does go against us, maybe get a black swan
type move or something, it allows us to typically get out with around the break even
mark or not lose very much which is really nice and helps you sleep a lot better at night. – Sure. So, does your portfolio
bounce around a lot? Are you seeing big volatility? – Not that much. You don’t see it that much. Sometimes when the
market really is moving, so you think about those times
you have the last few years where it was the 2018’s February and you had that big move down and anytime you have
options with volatility, things will move around, that happens. So when you get volume spikes, you’re gonna have that sort of thing, but for the most part it’s pretty steady and even keeled, and
that’s why we like it. – You like collecting money everyday? – I do, I like cashflow. – It sounds great. So, talk to me about some
of your losing positions. How does that work and
how do you manage it? – Yeah, so, years ago,
that was one of the things that it was lacking. I’d win, win, win and then I’d have that one trade go against me. – I think everyone does. They’ll take three or four steps forward and then lose it all in one trade. It’s very frustrating, so
how do you manage that? – So in managing that,
we’ve developed this rule, called the 15% rule. And the rule’s very
specific on what you do with some of the credit that you have and the trade you’re
doing and where you put it and how you put it on and
what timeframe you put it on, that allows us to ensure
that we are protected if a stock does go against us in any way. And so that’s something that
was really important to us, but the first way that you
really set yourself up is, again, what we talked about, choosing the right type
of trading vehicles to do the right type of options to trade. The best way to have defense, and as I talked about in the beginning, is putting the odds in your favor, the type of trades you decide to do, but more importantly, having a good set of exit and entry rules
that will really allow you to put, widen those odds if you will, grow those odds for you. So, you don’t wanna sell at the money if you’re selling an option, you wanna be able to
sell way below the money, way below support, maybe
below the 52 week low if you can get it, what’s
the chances of that stock coming down to its 52 week
low in a couple of months. So, there’s a lotta ways to
put those odds in your favor. So that’s part of the defense as well. So, it’s a complete system and
strategy that works together that really ensures that we’re successful. – So you’ve done this
about four years now. How many trades have
you made in that time? You win 90% of the time. How many are we talking about? – Oh, we’re doing 120, to
150 trades a year or so. – Wow, so you have a lot of track record with this to say 90%. – Yeah and honestly
we’ve been doing it back on almost a decade and I started actually publishing the trades in 2013, so I actually can show
the trades back to 2013 at this point. – Wow.
– Yeah. – So you’re doing this with real money, you’re actually showing
people what trade to get into, what you’re doing and
when you’re doing it? – Yeah. – Okay, so you’ve been
doing this for years now. With real money, watching
this account grow over time. I mean, you’ve seen some big
moves in the market happen and it’s great when the market goes up, but how do you deal with things
when they really go down? – Yeah, a great example of that, I mean, last October, October 2018,
we had this huge down movement in the market, right? So we had a lot of positions on. We took advantage of that. We really took advantage of
that and creating new positions but we had some positions I
got, essentially under water, and so, we had some
spread trade positions, we had some naked put tied
options that were out there and so there’s the defenses
that we had in place helped us but on some trades we
needed to do some things. And so, at that point,
the most important thing that I can tell anybody is to
separate emotion from logic. And the best way to
separate emotion from logic, is have a good solid system
of steps of what you do for when something goes wrong. Because when everything is going fine, you don’t worry about it. But when it does, is when
the emotional side takes over and you panic and you make bad moves, and you do trades that you shouldn’t do and so we’ve got very simple strategies for how we do that. Typically we roll it out. Very easy to roll out and
typically get more money. Which is great, right? So, hey, we’ll roll it out,
we’ll make some more money and we’ll give ourselves
a little more time to free ourselves from that trade. And so we did that. We actually rolled it out into the spring and even to the June time
frame for some of the trades and we actually just exit
them all for a profit just recently, so it was
a great example of hey, here’s what you do when
something goes against you and here’s how you can
still make money off it, still stay in, still keep that money and systematically continue on without blowing up your account, which a lot of people do in those times. – So because you’re willing
to hold for longer periods than most people and you’re
really flexible in your trade, you have a plan going into it, what happens with the
cashflow in that time? – Well, that’s the point. That’s the nice thing
about rolling things out, it allows you to collect more cashflow and everything else. It’s the same, a great example, look at the real estate markets, right? So, the real estate
markets, 2008 through 2010, what happened? You might’ve been, your
property might’ve been worth a lot of money, all of a
sudden, it go like this, it was worth nothing. What did a lot of people do? They freaked out and they sold. Well, affectively if
you’d stayed in and rolled your investment in real
estate for the next 10 years, you got a 100% return. – I was too nervous to
invest and I’m kicking myself for it now. – And so it’s the same thing. Remember, be fearful
when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. It’s not the time to get
out when everybody’s afraid. That’s the time to really
take advantage of it. So, you know that when
you have those bloodbaths, or when those things happen,
you can really take advantage of it, number one with your new trades, but you can actually make more money on your existing trades too. And so we like to do that. Because again, we have a
long term view of things, we like to play the long game. And we love cashflow. – I love that you’re not
forced out of a trade. Markets can be volatile day to day, but you’re able to ride
out that volatility with your strategy. – It’s ’cause I’m not
emotionally invested. I think that’s one of the things, that people get emotionally
invested into trading and emotionally invested into a position, and that’s where they get
themselves into trouble. And that’s why, again, back to that thing we talked about in the beginning about being that sniper in the tree, let it come to you. If it happens it happens, if it doesn’t, there’s another trade
tomorrow that you can do. There are always opportunities available. – Yeah, love it, I think
people are so focused on making every trade all the time, and they need to be
focused on the right trade at the right time. And that’s exactly what
your strategy does. – Exactly. – All right, so, talk to me about what Options Profit
Planner actually is. So, what do people actually
get with your service, what does it look like? – Yeah, so, every week,
every Sunday at five p.m. we send out our advisory
service, our newsletter that actually goes through. What’s happening in the market, goes through all the
trades that we’re doing. Reviews every trade that we have on, what we’re doing with
that current position, are we getting out, are we going
to do anything defensively, anything like that, I do a
video analysis of the market. So, I take everybody through, like the fractal energy
indicators, as well as, how we’re analyzing the trades. I show them every new
trade that we’re doing, what the setups are, how we’re doing it, I use it a lot to educate. I love to help people learn,
I love to educate people. Love to teach, right? So, I really do wanna teach
people to take a system and make it theirs. And so I do a lot of that in that video, but we do it in about 10 minutes or so and wrap everything up
and then it’s all there for people to go to as
well as the new trades of the week and everything
, so they can look right over my shoulder and
see what I’m doing everything, they can take what I’m
teaching them and use that as aside from their other
strategies that they use, and yeah, it’s a great service. – I love it, with just
10 minutes each week, you can be set up for the full week ahead. You got your trades already planned, you know what price, what
contracts you’re cutting into. I love it, that’s all set out– – Orders are all set and ready to go. – What better thing can you ask for? I’m a busy guy, I don’t
have time to manage a lot of trades, so
having 10 minutes a week to allocate to that, that’s
a strategy I can work with. – Yeah exactly. – So from what I’m gathering, it sounds like this is a
strategy that works really well and consistently but you
probably need a large account to do this with, so. – No, I started with $3,000 years ago, when I started out, just $3,000. That’s the beauty of the strategy is, we do the types of trades that we do, allow you to scale down and
to help with small accounts or even do large accounts. I still do a small account for fun. I’ll put a small account every year. Just put 5,000 and then trade from there and see how they do for the year. And go from there. So, yeah, absolutely, small
accounts, large accounts, whatever size, that’s one
of the benefits of it. – That’s great, I know a lot of people do have larger accounts, they’re looking for that
consistent cashflow, a way to consistently have the opportunity to beat the market year after year. But no matter what
account size you’ve got, that’s always gonna appeal to you. – Absolutely and again, it’s
about consistency, right? You can do multiple strategies, but how nice is it to have
a consistent strategy, making money for you while
you’re doing those strategies, very complimentary to that type of stuff. – I don’t know, whether I’ve
ever come across a strategy that wins 90% plus the
time like it has for you. So that’s incredible. That’s a way to really
build consistent cashflow, year over year. – Right and that’s what it’s about. It’s not about the home run trade, every single time and everything again. Remember that water dripping on a rock. Just consistently,
consistently creating cashflow from the market. – I hear you talk a lot about discipline and having a process in place. It’s helped you build
successful companies, it’s helped in real estate investing, it’s obviously helped your triathlon and now I see it’s in your trading, it’s having a successful system and sticking to it, really can
deliver consistent profits. – Yeah, it’s the system
that wins every time, I mean, great businesses
are really a collection of great systems and infrastructure that work symbiotically
with each other to grow. You think about these biggest
businesses in the world, is the founder needed everyday for them to do what they do? They continue to grow and
gain market share everything? No, right? Those systems that have
been put into place continue to work for them whether
they are there or not. And I think that’s the important thing about building a trading
strategy is to look at it, like building a business of systems. – Yeah, I love how you’ve built the system that people can just
replicate at that point. You’ve done the hard work,
you figured out the system, put it in place and you
just lay it out there for people to do. So that is so important that
you’ve built a framework and you clearly lay out
for people to follow. – And along the way doing
your best to keep it simple. I think that’s the important thing, right? We talked earlier how
traders can make things more complicated, businesses
can do the same thing. Great businesses really
understand their roots and the basics of what made ’em successful and they never lose that. And it’s the same thing here. And that’s why keeping it
simple is less than 10 minutes is pretty simple. And that’s why that’s so important. Because anybody can learn
it, anybody can put it into affect for themselves, and use it to better their lives and gain financial independence, that’s my goal with
teaching people to do this. – Well, Dave, thanks for coming out today. Besides taking my money, it’s been really good to see you here. If there’s one thing I learned, it’s that I definitely
want to be the house instead of making these bets all the time. I don’t wanna have the sucker bet. I wanna take the sucker bet. (laughing) So your system, it’s really refreshing. It’s for people who aren’t day traders. People who don’t wanna
be active in the market, day in and day out. I love that you’ve built a system that delivers exactly what
to do on Sunday night, before the market opens each week, you’ve already laid out a video, clearly explaining what
you’re planning to do, you’ve got a email set up with exactly what to look for, the
exact option contract, what stock and what price
you’re looking to do every single week. It totally takes the guesswork
out of what people need to be doing in the market. So, in about 10 minutes
or less a week, right? – That’s right. – So in 10 minutes or less, each week, you can set up your whole trading week to be consistently profitable, just like Dave has done. Every Sunday night you
get a plan that works around 90% of the time, that’s proven to build an account like Dave and you can be doing the same thing. So take the opportunity right now. You wanna work with Dave. Trust me, this is a great guy. He is successful at everything he does, he’s worked with hundreds
of students already. He’s going to show you
exactly how to do this and how you can be planning
your profits week after week. You can totally do this. He’s gonna walk you through how to do it. Step by step, explain
exactly what you need to do. – Yeah, Jeff, it’s been
an honor to be here with you today and with all of you that are watching out there. For me this is all about
creating this system that helps people create
their financial independence, that’s what I wanted for me,
I had a very specific goal in the beginning and
then it grew from there. So that’s what I wanna do for you now ,so. I know we only have some
limited spots in this, because I can only work with so many, ’cause I do have other
businesses and stuff. So, hopefully I get to see you in there and hopefully I get to work with you and help you do the same. – Yeah, it’s already
helped a lotta people. I know it’s gonna help you
if you’re watching this. So take the opportunity right now, work with Dave, man, this guy
is successful at everything. (laughing) He’s gonna show you exactly how to do it, so take the opportunity right now, the Options Profit Planner,
I’m gonna be in there, starting Sunday night, I hope you are too. – I’ll see you there.

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